Weaste Cemetery

Biographies of people buried between 1920 & 29

Herbert Bates OBE (1874 - 1925)

Herbert Bates was an engineer, became Managing Director of  J S Hulse and Co based in Ordsall, Salford and received the OBE for services during the First World War.

He was born in Salford on 23rd June 1874. His father was Henry Bates (born 1846 in Salford) who was a Mechanical Engineer and became Managing Director of the renowned Engineering company of J S Hulse and Company of Ordsall. His mother was Ann Bates (born 1848 in Knutsford, Cheshire).

Herbert was educated at the Central Higher Grade School and Technical School, Manchester. He served his apprenticeship at the engineering company Messrs Hulse and Co, machine tool makers in Ordsall, Salford, where his father was Foreman, Manager and then Managing Director. Herbert also became Managing Director and held that position until his death in 1925.

The family gravestone records that three of Herbert's siblings died young. Arthur died on 23rd July 1873 aged 3 weeks, Jackson died on 19th December 1881 aged 10 months and Henry jnr died on 25th July 1887 aged 16 years. 

The 1891 census records that the family lived at Trafford Road, Salford and 16-year-old Herbert was a machine tool fitter. Also in the house were his siblings James (born 1877 in Salford) and Ann (born 1879 in Salford). In 1901, they were at 30 Trafford Road, Salford and 26-year-old Herbert was Works Manager Machine Tool Works. His brother James was a Machine Tools Pattern Maker. By 1911, both his parents had died and Herbert, James and Ann were living at 25, Eccles Old Road, Pendleton. Herbert's occupation was General Manager, Engineering Works and James was Works Manager of Engineering Works.

During the First World War, Hulse and Co was taken over by the Admiralty to carry out vital engineering work and as a result, Herbert was awarded with an OBE. He also acted as an advisor to a number of other companies carrying out vital war work.

Herbert became an Associate Member (in 1903) then a full Member (in 1906) of the Manchester Association of Engineers. He was a member of Council for many years and then became President of the Association in 1924, the year before he died.

During his time with Hulse and Co, the company developed machine tools such as the Davies plural drilling machine for locomotive boilers; the quadruple-geared duplex crank lathe for William Jessop and son; the Belville boiler-making machinery; a lathe for turning large turbine drums built for Darlington Forge Co; and large crank-shaft turning machines for navy ships.

Herbert Bates died on 17th October 1925 and is buried in plot A3 of the Dissenters portion of Weaste Cemetery. He was 51 years of age.


(With thanks to Grace's Guide to British Industrial History).